The Shiki Subs Policy

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The first fansub group to release a sub of Cross Game was Shiki Subs. Recently I saw a post on ADTRW about how Shiki Subs was basically copypasting the translation from the Cross Game manga scanlations done by Manga Downloads. People re-release with subs they didn’t make all of the time, but coj linked a thread on 4chan where downloaders complaining about “episode 3″ release by Shiki where the whole video was covered in an angry message about not re-uploading Shiki Subs to streaming site and places like MegaUpload.

Additionally, this guy is saying he’s a gg bro. Shit’s personal now.

Edit: Okay, he deleted that post. This is what it said: (Screenshot)

Movies 4 and 5 are out and subbed by our group at GG ok please check us out a http://www.ggthx.org/ when the website is reopened for the 6th movie thanks

Here’s some lines from Shiki’s 01 and the manga scanlations by Manga Downloads that shows how they’ve copypasted the manga translation, and why it is ironic that they’re getting uppity about their “work” being stolen. ($10 says this is all actually an elaborate troll by the ShikiKazu guy.) There are places in which the dialogue was changed from the manga or where the manga translation was wrong (I’m not sure, I don’t have the original manga) and this makes Shiki Subs’ release wrong so I can pass this off as a, “Look, I’m trying to be helpful!” type of thing. Although I’m not really capable of catching every error, so there’s possibly far more than what I put down.

Italics = Manga line not in the anime.

pg10 – MD Scans: “Doesn’t your place sell nozzles or something?” / “Unfortunately, water spraying has not been officially classified as a sport yet…” / “And plus! What kind of treatment is this?!”
3:44 – Shiki Subs: “Doesn’t your place sell nozzles or something?” / “Sorry but spraying water has not been officially classified as a sport yet…” / “Also, what kind of treatment is this!?”

pg14 – MD Scans: “Koh! Take me to swimming school on your bike.”
4:46 – Shiki Subs: “Ko, take me to swimming school on your bike.”

pg16 – MD Scans: “Shut up! I’m just taking her to swimming school.” / “That’s perfect. When you’re done, join the team. We’re low on members.”
5:39 – Shiki Subs: “Idiot! I’m just taking her to swimming school!” / “Thats perfect When your done, join the team because we are low on members.”

Mistranslation on the 2nd line. As it is now, he’s making it sound like, “Join the team forever dude we don’t have enough people period.” In reality, he’s only saying that they’re low right now/today/etc. (Miss: 今日)

pg16-17 – MD Scans: “No way, baseball sucks…” / “The hell is this?! You were the one who said we should make a team in the first place!” / “Oh yeah, thanks for buying all the uniforms and gear.”
5:47 – Shiki Subs: “No way, baseball sucks.” / “Hey! Aren’t you the one who said we should make a team in the first place?!” / “Oh yeah. Thanks for buying all the baseball gear and uniforms.”

Mistranslation on “in the first place” on the 2nd line. He says that Kou told them to make the team in class. (Miss: クラスで)

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Here’s a picture of a 4 leaf clover so there’s an image break

pg17 – MD Scans: “You mean you just said that to sell more stuff?!” / “Yes sirree, I be’s a hardworkin’ man.” / “I hear he gets more allowance for bringing in big orders.” / “Thanks.” / “You tricked us!” / “So have fun with your low-membered team!” / “You punk! Get back here!”
6:03 – Shiki Subs: “You mean you said that in the first place to sell more stuff?!” / “I hear he gets extra allowance for bringing in big orders.” / “Come again.” / “You tricked us didn’t you?!” / “Have fun with your low membered team.” / “Get back here you punk!”

pg20 – MD Scans: “Ok, I’ll be done at five.” / “So what?” / “Oh, all right. That’s for coming to pick me up.” / “W-Who said I was gonna come back to get you?!” / “Ok, I’ll be done at five.”
7:00 – Shiki Subs: “I’ll be done at five.” / “So what?” / “Thats right. Thats for coming to pick me up.” / “W-Who said I was going to come back and get you?!” / “All right, come pick me up at five.”

Mistranslation on the last line in Shiki, he should’ve just copypasted the manga version again. (Miss: 終わるから)

pg21-22 – MD Scans: “Regardless of the kiss on the cheek I just received… Wakaba Tsukishima is the cutest girl in my class… No, more like, our entire grade… Naturally, this means there are lots of guys who like her.”
7:28 – Shiki Subs: “Regardless of the kiss on the cheek she just gave me.. Tsukishima Wakaba is the cutest girl in my class. No.. more like our whole grade. That means there are a lot of guys who like her.”

pg24 – MD Scans: “Hey! Hi guys. I mean, fellow teammates!” / “What is it now?” / “What I couldn’t say earlier because of the girl, is that I’ve never once forgotten about this team. As proof of that, see here! I have the uniform on at all times so I can be of help at any moment.” / “You’re just wearing it as your normal clothes.”
8:01 – Shiki Subs: “Hey fellow doors teammates” / “What is it now?” / “I’ve never once forgotten about this team. As proof of that, I have the uniform on at all times so I can be of help at any moment.” / “You’re trying to get away from trouble, aren’t you?”

Mistranslation on the first and last lines here. On the first one he’s like, “lol didn’t mean to make you guys wait hurf.” (Miss: おまたせ blah blah) On the last one, he should’ve just copypasted from it again. Nakanishi is talking about Kou’s clothes. (Miss: 普段にしてやがるな)

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pg30 – MD Scans: “Continuing onward, we go to the bottom of the 5th, doors to bat.” / “Hey! Hold on a sec! You’re going too fast! First explain how it was I gave up five runs! All because of your four errors!”
8:35 – Shiki Subs: “Its now the bottom of the fifth inning and it’s the doors turn to bat, with only three innings left until the end of the game.” / “If it wasn’t for your four errors it would be a one-sided game!”

What he actually says on the 1st line: “It’s the bottom of the 5th, tied 5 to 5, and the Doors are up to bat! What a thrilling game.” …fuck :effort: @ putting what the JP is for this. 五回点 = 5 baseball pts. He seemingly thought that Kou says three inning in Engrish instead of thrilling? (Miss: スリリングなゲーム)

pg34 – MD Scans: “Continuing onward, we enter the last inning, bottom of the 6th, trailing the Pons 7-6.” / “Hang on! Would you mind explaining how we gave up two runs in the top of the 6th?”
9:30 – Shiki Subs: “We enter the last inning, bottom of the sixth with the Doors trailing by one, can they make a comeback and win this?!” / “Its your error in the top of the six inning which gave up two runs!”

What he actually says on the 1st line: “Bottom of the 6th, the Doors trail by one, no outs, and a chance to score with the guy on first. Can they turn this around?”
What he actually says on the 2nd line: “IF YOU HADN’T FUCKED UP SIX TIMES…”
“No outs” and “error” are both spoken in Engrish. coj found me a dictionary entry where it says [#]塁のチャンス is like saying, “We have a guy on base [whatever].”

Here’s the error mentioned in the AniDB comments where he copypasted the manga tl and it was wrong later in the episode.

pg166 – MD Scans: “Wakaba was swimming to help a 3rd grade girl who had her foot caught in a hole…”
18:35 – Shiki Subs: “Wakaba-chan was swimming to save a third grade student who had her foot trapped and was unable to move.”

What the guy is actually saying: “Wakaba-chan was swallowed by the current while trying to help a younger girl who got her legs/feet caught in a deeper area.” (わかばちゃんは 深み足を足を取られた隔世の女のこ助けようとして 流れに巻き込まれてということです。)

I think you get the idea. Going back to my console games now~

51 Comments
April 21, 2009 in Subbing
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51 Responses

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    YOU ARE IN BIG TROUBLE YOUNG LADY

  2. —3. All works of Shiki-Subs may not be edited in anyway and redistributed without permission of Shiki-Subs, when in violation of this clause, the violator agrees to delete all content originating from Shiki-Subs.—

  3. Lol@4 leaf clover image break..

  4. Wow… I lol’d.

  5. Are these softsubbed? Or do they provide the script? If so, someone should just edit out the message, fix the errors, and reupload a good version of it, maybe onto Megaupload or some other easily accessible site.

    It’s so lame that they got all pissy about something like that. And LOL about the copying. Even copying the mistranslated lines. Retards.

  6. Believe it or not those evil guys who upload to veoh/megaupload actually watch the videos before uploading. (Still remember the code geass troll subs :))

  7. you guys have such a coal gai name shikikazu in your group? :|

  8. The first 4-leaf clover is really pretty. I’ve never managed to find one before, and now you give us TWO of them. How nice.

    I don’t really care about those failsubs, but your bro from ShikiSubs seems to be a pretty cool guy eh.

  9. So this guy is the Rollo to your Lelouch, then?

  10. Which group to stick with for Shangri-La (despite Shinji)? This oversubbing seriously sucks…

    • I don’t know. Crunchy subs are probably fine and the only reason why oversubbing is occurring is probably because everyone wants to make a re-release of them. :p

  11. Too bad all leechers care about is video quality and exploding karaoke amirite

  12. Just a question… but how can a fansub be “official”?

  13. Koda: 9,372
    Everyone Else: 0

  14. Page not found
    Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog SHIKI does not exist.

  15. Let this be a lesson to y’all aspiring fansubbers.

  16. Ads on home blog, and uploads vids to youtube himself.
    If you steal something and repackage it for other people to steal, your still guilty.
    Hypocrite anyone?

  17. I still believe you’re a gg bro Shiki!!!! :D

  18. Leave Shiki’s subs alone. It’s becasue of Assholes like you that they even put that troll up to begin with.
    If you don’t like it, then release your own damn subs and don’t rip theirs.

    • “If you don’t like it, then release your own damn subs and don’t rip theirs.”

      Don’t you mean the subs belonging to mangadownloads? So is jade subbing this “for real”?

    • “Leave Shiki’s subs alone.”– Nothing in this article is factually incorrect, therefore I fail to see the problem with talking about factual events, unless of course there is a reason we should ignore the facts

      “It’s becasue of Assholes like you that they even put that troll up to begin with.”– The pic says to blame specific people for the troll upload. Instead, I personally blame the person who did the troll (Shiki), because he is the one who did it.

      “If you don’t like it, then release your own damn subs and don’t rip theirs.”– Don’t illegally download and translate the anime the Japanese companies make, instead make your own anime or wait for official subs and don’t steal theirs./sarcasm

    • 風の谷の名無しさん

      No, they put up that troll because they are pathetic assholes.

      They have zero rights to the anime, and zero rights to make a translation for it. Under international copyright law, the translation they made belongs to the anime company! And that’s not even going into the fact that they copied their translation from others.

      Throwing a hissy fit because someone “stole” the thing you yourself stole in the first place deserves nothing but scorn.

      • what gets me about this thread is that not one of these replies, three of which were serious and two of which contain actual RAEG, mention the fact that the source of the initial posts’ misdirected anger is the assumption that gg (or ‘assholes like you’) actually uploads people’s subs to sites like Veoh. This failure of reading comprehension on the part of the original poster is already bad enough, but that the three ‘rebuttals’ further this chain of irrevelancy by not noticing that makes me facepalm.

    • Leave Britney alone. ;_;

  19. LOL I guess his/her blog is no longer public.

    This blog is open to invited readers only

    http://shikiblog.blogspot.com/

    I wonder why it went private…

  20. This is why I stick with MJN for CG subs.
    Thank you for a good summary of this little bit of fansub drama to lol at.

  21. I thought frostii was subbing fucking everything.

  22. MJN completely butchered the first episode though. After talking to blakbunnie, who did their TL, he told me they completely fucked up his TLs lol I feel bad for the guy.

  23. Shin :Let this be a lesson to y’all aspiring fansubbers.

    aye, indeed.

    oh damn, this is frickin hilarious.

  24. Is it weird if I sorta want to eat those clovers lol

  25. rofl, I’m sticking to Jade for the subs for Cross Game.
    They have the most accurate.

  26. Screw this drama, I’ll just wait for the show to finish.

  27. Anonymous bastard

    is there a way to booby trap a file so that when someone trys to reencode it it basically explodes in their face?

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