A Guide to Karaoke Criticism

Various posts on AniDB and other places on the internet have made it very clear to me that people have no clue how to critique karaoke. I have made this guide in order to make sure that the internet properly criticizes the least important aspect of fansubbing.

Guidelines

First, we must understand that karaoke is optional. Yes, you heard me, transcribing and translating the songs is optional. Some songs are too hard to bother trying to work out so sometimes fansubbers just wait for the official lyrics to come out with the single before bothering. Alternatively, we just steal lyrics from NicoVideo. Fansubbers don’t have to do this and doing it should not somehow be relevant to whether you think a release is good or not. If you are about to seriously downvote or criticize a release for not including song translations and lyrics, you are a fucking idiot.

Second, we must understand that fansubbing in our community is from Japanese to English, but sometimes songs are in say Korean (Black Blood Brothers Ending) or French (Nodame Paris Ending). Unless the group members happen to speak that language or have friends who speak the language (or whatever), chances are this isn’t going to get translated. Fansubbers don’t have to do this and doing it should not somehow be relevant to whether you think a release is good or not. If you are about to seriously downvote or criticize a release for not including song translations and lyrics for a language that they don’t speak, you are a fucking idiot.

Third, we must understand that if a group does bother to do any karaoke, effects are optional. Yes, you heard me, making the syllables shit 50 thousand particles based on mathematical patterns and color changing through the whole fucking spectrum while shaking to every beat and/or guitar riff and then exploding into 50 thousand more particles is optional. Fansubbers don’t have to do this and doing it should not somehow be relevant to whether you think a release is good or not. If you are about to seriously downvote or criticize a release for not doing karaoke effects, or because their karaoke effects are lacking in comparison to other groups, you are a fucking idiot. Alternatively, if you are about to upvote or praise a release for having AWESUM!!11 karaoke effects, you are also a fucking idiot.

Fourth, we must understand that while people who actually sing along to romaji are gigantic faggots (IF YOU REALLY LIKED THE SONG, YOU’D MEMORIZE THE LYRICS), the supposed “point” of karaoke involves the viewer being able to read it. So universal no-no’s are things like the lyrics not being on-screen before they’re sung, not being able to read the lyrics very well due to a bad font choice or clashing/ugly colors, too distracting, etc. If you’re about to downvote or hate on a release because of stuff like that, I fully sympathize with you! But then again, karaoke is like the least pressing thing in a release – think twice before doing this! Also, there’s different levels of “eye fucking offensive”. In example, Frostii’s Sengoku Basara karaoke is very offensive but it’s not as bad as say… this.

Fifth, we must understand that the above points are not actually common sense/basic knowledge to people. (”People” includes fansubbers.)

Sixth, we must understand that I am being very ironic about a lot of this because I do karaoke and make pretty terrible looking shit and it’s all awesome.

Examples of karaoke

Here are some recent examples of fansub karaoke. With the above guidelines in mind, lets evaluate them!

anbu-cross-game

Here’s Anbu’s Cross Game opening. It’s hardsubbed. The border changes to orange when each syllable is sung then it changes back to the green color afterward. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes. Can it be seen as being offensive to your eyes in any way? No. Then 100% passing grade A++++.

any-conclave-valkyria

Here’s AnY-Conclave’s Valkyria opening. It’s hardsubbed. The letters expand and the 2nd part of the song has particles flying out. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes. Can it be seen as being offensive to your eyes in any way? IT HAS FUCKING PARTICLES No. Also A++++ passing grade.

cf-phantom

Here’s Chibi-Formula’s Phantom opening. It’s softsubbed, no karaoke timing. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes. Can it be seen as being offensive to your eyes in any way? No. Once again, another A+++++ passing grade.

m33w-hanasakeru

In contrast, here’s m33w’s Hanasakeru Seishounen. Cool Qaulity guys. It’s softsubbed with the lyrics only. Is it translated? No. Is it legible? No, the font is fairly thin and has no border. F- for fucking failure, you faggots.

coalguys-kon

This is CoalGuys’ K-On opening. It’s softsubbed typesetroll karaoke made by yours truly. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes. Can it be seen as being offensive to your eyes in any way? Yes, the text appears fucking everywhere. Does everyone hate it? Apparently not. The troll is on me. (;´д⊂)

frostii-basara

This is Frostii’s Sengoku Basara opening. It’s hardsubbed AFX bullshit. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes… or, well, when the spears aren’t cutting the words, then yes it’s legible. Did the AFX user clearly go overboard? Yes. On the romaji we’ve got spears moving across cutting shit and on the kanji we’ve got swords cutting shit. Who the fuck let pichu the afx guy out of his pokeball.

ii-subs-sorakake

This is Il-Subs’ SoraKake Girl opening. Does not having karaoke there make me a very angry person? No. Is not having anything there better than some of the other crap that groups put out? Yes. A++++ good job guys!

Examples of completely retarded comments made about karaoke

Don’t end up like these people!

megajapan on Frostii’s Eden of the East opening:

Very disappointed in the fact that there’s no OP karaoke. Not because it is necessary or anything, but because it’s Frostii we’re talking about here, they are pretty much expected to have it there.

There are lots of choices for this anime though, I’ll be looking elsewhere, kthx.

Gz Frostii, you suck because you didn’t sub an English song.

riggs on Eclipse’s Fullmetal Alchemist:

Very good release, no wonder of Eclipse.
BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there f***ing karaoker is really lame! he does the same effects for every new release, not just that but also same colors and fonts (karaoke sux really)(same for Hayate 2nd)

My rate:
Everything 10/10 except karaoke 0/10
Eclipse: you should really find another skilled karaoker

All karaoke is timed and has letters. It’s all the same.

Dominic White on gg’s Maria+Holic opening:

It really is. Perfectly in keeping with the OP, too. Truly above and beyond the call of fansubbing duty.

THE CALL OF FANSUBBING DUTY.

r3hpyc on THORA’s Gundam 00 BD’s:

yup TSr of menclave is pretty gud, but this group’s tsr is not as good as menclave. also the karas of this group is inferior which makes the whole rls lower eventhough the video quality is good.

If your karaoke is inferior to Menclave’s, your whole release is.

gam3szz on Taka’s Fullmetal Alchemist:

Taka’s karaoke on the OP and ED was the best of all the groups..

I always watched it..

Damn you FUNimation!

Omg Funimation don’t C+D Taka! They had the best karaoke! ;_;

tl;dr

Fansubbing is fucking dumb.

118 Comments
May 12, 2009 by miasmacloud in Subbing
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118 Responses

  1. Reply
    Michael | Low on Hit Points
    May 12, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I actually don’t like karaoke. I prefer the OP stay clean. But it’s not like I really give that much of a shit about it all, truthfully. Hell, most people just skip the OP / ED after the first few times (I’m one of those weirdos that always watches it).

    Though, there has been two times in all my anime watching history that I actually thought the karaoke was worthwhile. That was for Maria Holic and K-ON! Now, who was it that did those again…

    • Reply
      Karaoke-Hating Anonymous
      May 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm

      I also don’t like karaoke. Koda’s fourth point pretty much covers my reasons. You can’t actually sing along to karaoke in anime OPs since the lyrics, unlike in real karaoke, don’t appear early enough. Can’t sing along with it = Not real karaoke = Pointless = Get rid of it. Combine that with the annoying effect where the text disappears when it is sung (though thankfully, I haven’t seen that much of this recently) or overly gimmicky, sparkly distractions and together you have one large piece of shit.

      If a group insists on inserting karaoke, I’d greatly prefer that they be plain text or, at the very least, softsubs (so that people who don’t like them can turn them off).

      Also, no Japanese text please. If we are watching fansubs, we can’t read that shit anyway. Please keep the picture as free of text as possible, kthx.

      • Reply
        Owen S
        May 12, 2009 at 8:11 pm

        Japanese text is useful for those of us who would like to insert OP/ED lyrics in our IM status messages in the original Japanese, I am guilty of this at least once.

        • Reply
          miasmacloud
          May 12, 2009 at 9:03 pm

          I think lyric pages are more reliable for that!

          • Reply
            Owen S
            May 13, 2009 at 12:03 am

            This is only applicable before the single is released, though, as lyrics are generally hard to find then!

            • 風の谷の名無しさん
              May 13, 2009 at 4:42 am

              Then they will most likely BE WRONG anyway. Get that shit off my animation.

            • stellar
              May 18, 2009 at 1:36 pm

              If you need to copy and paste Japanese into IM, then you probably don’t understand it, so what’s the point?

              Anyway why shouldn’t subbing cater for a weird minority. I’m sure the majority just want translation, not to try to sing words they don’t understand.

            • stellar
              May 18, 2009 at 1:37 pm

              I meant subbing shouldn’t cater…

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 12, 2009 at 8:58 pm

      Though, there has been two times in all my anime watching history that I actually thought the karaoke was worthwhile. That was for Maria Holic and K-ON! Now, who was it that did those again…

      Oh you. ヽ(´ｰ ｀)ノ

  2. Reply
    Eronarn
    May 12, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Your blog has the worst karaoke I’ve ever seen, the title just sits there! It isn’t sparkling or popping off my screen or bursting or anything. You should be ashamed.

  3. Reply
    Han
    May 12, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    For Black Cat… uh, this was a very loooong while ago so I can’t remember the group, but the ED karaoke was absolutely awesome, and I always watched it because it made me smile. W/o the karaoke, the ED was pretty bland.

  4. Reply
    Eronarn
    May 12, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Also you haven’t translated it to romaji.

  5. Reply
    blkmage
    May 12, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    I read a book about typography once. It ruined about 80% of fansubs for me.

  6. Reply
    eMDee
    May 12, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Needs more particles fucking other particles then exploding into even more particle fuckery.

  8. Reply
    llxwarbirdxll
    May 12, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    gg has the best karaoke. No other group has as many butterflies and rainbows. Also, the guys over at Triad agree with you: http://www.the-triad.org/Article264.html

  9. Reply
    asdf
    May 12, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    I don’t like your karaoke for Pretentious of the East. I think it’s shit.

  10. Reply
    teohhanhui
    May 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    You actually beat all of them by translating an English song XD

  11. Reply
    edogawaconan
    May 12, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    ha ha ha ha ha

    also applies to some of my friends here (”this group’s release is better because they have coaler kara!!!!111oneone”)

  12. Reply
    Dorian Cornelius Jasper
    May 12, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Karaoke for old-school is acceptable because the shows themselves included the karaoke, presumably to help kids sing along. For this-gen anime, it’s not only completely unnecessary but also really, really funny. Just not intentionally.

    Except when someone subs an english song.

  13. Reply
    Craymel
    May 12, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    I usually try to get a group who COMPLETELY softsubs. I don’t care about karaoke. In fact I even take the time to remove the karaoke with aegisub and remux it into the mkv. I’m so sorry I threw out all your hard work (I’m not really sorry because I don’t fucking care). I also still don’t understand fansubbers need to put english subtitles for the characters that speak coherent fucking english coughEdenOfTheEastcough. (I still hold hope that gg was just trolling with that…)

    YOU KNOW WHAT I don’t like the karaoke on this blog either! I say you should remove all karaoke(words) before I show off my extremely limited aegisub skills on yo ass muthafukka!

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 13, 2009 at 8:20 am

      Not everyone who can read English (and watches English fansubs) can coherently speak/understand English too.

      Have you ever taken a foreign language? You will usually be able to read it better at first than you will be able to decipher it from ear. IE: I can read Japanese much better than I can understand it audibly.

      • Reply
        dj_tjerk
        May 13, 2009 at 11:51 am

        I understand written English better than spoken English, but it’s not the same for Japanese (at least for me). I guess that’s mostly because I’ve never had to write or read any Japanese evah, but instead have heard thousands of hours of it.

      • Reply
        Craymel
        May 13, 2009 at 5:16 pm

        As long as you’re being inclusive I guess.

      • Reply
        Crofesima
        May 14, 2009 at 9:47 am

        Well, but you don’t put english subs in Hetalia, right? And it’s engrishy to the extreme.

        Just saying. (≖‿≖)

  14. Reply
    Kuro
    May 12, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Would be much better if there were fake English translations instead of romanji, like whatever the term is for stuff like Benny Lava.

  15. Reply
    darkkosmos
    May 13, 2009 at 12:07 am

    lol karaoke, I skip OP and ED

  16. Reply
    tyblazitar
    May 13, 2009 at 1:23 am

    I, for one, absolutely loathe the K-on! karaoke. Gj.

  17. Reply
    Crofesima
    May 13, 2009 at 2:07 am

    oh yes, karaoke drama. It used to be my favourite part of fansub drama.

    I don’t usually judge fansub groups based just on karaoke. I immediately assume they’ve hired a complete idiot responsible for this and just… move on. Whenever I want a clean OP sequence I just download RAW episode (yay for bandwidth these days). But if it’s softsubbed then I don’t care about it AT ALL. Particles, retarded colors and effects, text appears fucking everywhere coughcough（´∀｀）cough – I don’t give a damn.

    Anyway, it was a nice guide, I’m happy to announce that I’m not a fucking idiot (yet) and OtaKing would be proud of your rant.

  18. Reply
    someone
    May 13, 2009 at 2:15 am

    i havent read a good thread like this since ages.
    this page should be pasted and bookmarked everywhere on the fucking internet

  19. Reply
    FalseDawn
    May 13, 2009 at 4:21 am

    I vote for subbing each ep’s karaoke into a different language. That way, we appease all audiences. Or what about softsub kara with like a gazillion different alternative effects? That’s gotta score leecher points.

  20. Reply
    TheFluff
    May 13, 2009 at 4:23 am

    >Fansubbing is fucking dumb.

    quoting because it’s true

  21. Reply
    Ruka
    May 13, 2009 at 5:01 am

    karaoke is worthwhile when you see pacman eating the lyrics

  22. Reply
    RedWing
    May 13, 2009 at 6:32 am

    I 100% agree with everything except this:

    [QUOTE]Alternatively, if you are about to upvote or praise a release for having AWESUM!!11 karaoke effects, you are also a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]

    If someone goes “above and beyond the call of fansubbing duty” why shouldn’t they be praised?

  23. Reply
    dj_tjerk
    May 13, 2009 at 6:43 am

    Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
    How I wonder what you are.
    Up above the world so high,
    Like a diamond in the sky.
    Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
    How I wonder what you are!

    (I like particles)

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 13, 2009 at 8:28 am

      {\an8}TL Note: “Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star” is one of the most popular English nursery rhymes. It combines the tune of the melody ‘Ah! Vous dirai-je, Maman’, known in France at the latest since the 1760s, with an early nineteenth-century English poem, “The Star” by Jane Taylor. The poem, which is in couplet form, was first published in 1806 in Rhymes for the Nursery, a collection of poems by Taylor and her sister Ann. It is often sung to the tune of the French melody “Ah! vous dirai-je, Maman” (eldest known publication 1761)[1]. The English lyrics have five stanzas, although only the first is widely known. Mozart wrote twelve variations on ‘Ah! Vous dirai-je, Maman’. It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 7666.

  24. Reply
    star*
    May 13, 2009 at 7:37 am

    I usually skip the OP + ED or alt tab when it starts, so I don’t really care for karaoke 8D

    >My rate: Everything 10/10 except karaoke 0/10 Eclipse: you should really find another skilled karaoker
    >find another skilled karaoker

    So he’s saying the current one is skilled even though he gave a 0 ):

  25. Reply
    Serpit
    May 13, 2009 at 7:45 am

    -Fourth, we must understand that while people who actually sing along to romaji are gigantic faggots

    ;_;

  26. Reply
    noushi
    May 13, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Fuck Karaoke, no one needs it.

  27. Reply
    Tokufag
    May 13, 2009 at 9:18 am

    I used to rage at people who were annoyed ’cause their karaoke isn’t fabulous enough.

    Then I found out there’s people who release fansubs with fabulous dialogues (not notes, nor signs, dialogues). That’s when I realised fabulous karaoke isn’t that bad compared to fabulous dialogues. :<

    • Reply
      Kuro
      May 13, 2009 at 10:49 am

      The subs obviously have to contain as much emotion and energy as the characters in the show. If their attack is going to split the world in two, so should the subtitles!

      • Reply
        Chris
        September 7, 2009 at 1:46 pm

        Everyone has to admit that Black-Order’s TTGL subs wouldn’t have been the same without the fuckawesome GIGA DRILL BREAKER text effects.

        That shit isn’t fabulous, it’s fansubbing that would pierce the heavens.

        Too bad Black-Order never finished TTGL…

    • Reply
      stellar
      May 18, 2009 at 2:05 pm

      The best is when the subs for every single character has it’s own matching colour, (like bright pink for the pink haired one).It’s even better when the subs consist of just an outline and the font is transparent in the middle. Really easy on the eyes, AND the subs for each character has it’s own matching colour (very light shades, those are the most stylish).

  28. Reply
    MCC
    May 13, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Karaoke is like subber credits.

    It’s good when you can turn it off and simply enjoy the OP/ED.

  29. Reply
    Anonymous bastard
    May 13, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    my favorite karaoke is definitely the stuff you’ve done koda. so off-the-wall crazy and awesome.

    i hate all the partically crazy bullshit and stuff. though floating heads would be neat.

    lol @ TL’ing an english song into japanese though.

  30. Reply
    EvilLinkz
    May 13, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Remember when creditless OP and ED was a bonus on DVDs?

    • Reply
      kaoru
      May 13, 2009 at 4:40 pm

      It still is, just sometimes they split them over 2 volumes or don’t include them until the end of the 13-episode arc. Sometimes they also don’t report them on the websites but it still might be listed on the back cover (obvious racism is obvious, they want to make sure gaijin can’t get their hands on those extras without pain of wasting bandwidth or having friends)

  31. Reply
    derp
    May 13, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    When was the last time you praised someone on anidb because they have no flashy kara? (inb4 only faggots cares about anidb, derp).

    Fansubbers listen to their fans to some extent and there has been no positive feedback for having softsub kara. Only negative feedbacks for having no kara effects. (inb4 fuck the viewers)

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 13, 2009 at 4:20 pm

      >>there has been no positive feedback for having softsub kara

      Which is why a bunch of people are kissing my ass for my softsubbed m+h/kon kara in this comment thread amirite? TRY HARDER.

      • Reply
        derp
        May 14, 2009 at 12:27 am

        Haha, the people kissing your ass are on the same level as those who like flashy hardsubbed kara: people who take visual appeal over readability. Thanks to your kara, I still don’t know what the m+h/k-on OP is about, because I gave up trying to read them.

    • Reply
      風の谷の名無しさん
      May 13, 2009 at 4:30 pm

      The problem here is confusing “their fans” and “viewers” with “people who post on anidb”.

    • Reply
      Craymel
      May 13, 2009 at 5:29 pm

      I like softsub karaoke and not just because gg does it. I wish every group did it. I like the ability to be able to just enjoy the opening. Softsub karaoke doesn’t have to be ugly either just look at coalguys kara for toradora’s second opening and even gg’s Eden of the East karaoke. (I don’t actually like m+h’s or K-on’s they’re great trolls though). I don’t understand why people still cling to hardsubbed karaoke.

      Also no one should pay attention to anidb’s ratings for fansub groups…

  32. Reply
    noob
    May 13, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    lol @ the 6th guideline

  33. Reply
    ZeroOBK
    May 13, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    > This is CoalGuys’ K-On opening. It’s softsubbed typesetroll karaoke made by yours truly. Is it translated? Yes. Is it legible? Yes. Can it be seen as being offensive to your eyes in any way? Yes, the text appears fucking everywhere. Does everyone hate it? Apparently not. The troll is on me. (;´д⊂)

    I say more groups need to troll like you.

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 13, 2009 at 5:32 pm

      (´_ゝ｀) Encouraging this bullshit is bad. If we have a period full of troll karaoke, then the next period will put us back to 50k particles per word.

  34. Reply
    アラ
    May 13, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    What I really want to know is — did you really do karaoke for M+H? Because I fucking swear it looked like it was part of the opening.

    And if you did, fuck, blew my mind.

    Slacked off on the K-ON shit tho. l2takefansubbingsrslypls

    Either way I think we will all still continue to speculate for years on end as to why there is a mass of people who adamantly believe that releases’ quality is determined by the first 2min of a fucking song.

  35. Reply
    Nat
    May 13, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    no mention of jfs? :x

  36. Reply
    lametastic
    May 13, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Karaoke is fucking gay. It also sucks harder if you have an old and slow computer, and there’s some bonus shit points if all the flying particles are HARDSUBBED.

  37. Reply
    miken-chan
    May 13, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    As a karaoke subber myself (though I’m not good at all and I can’t do AFX for shit) I really try to focus on the point that the lyrics need to be legible no matter what the effect is. Since I’m half blind as it is, it’s quite a huge problem when the text itself is hard to read over the video. I also hate it when karaoke effects go overboard and take up half the screen…when the new karaoke guy for Abyssal Chronicles showed up for Tales of the Abyss and redid all the effects *sobs for wasting time designing the effects and timing the freaking long OP* I had to comment that his preliminary effect designs were waaaaay too flashy and overbearing. Thankfully, we met at a nice middle ground and ended up with fitting effects~

    The effects themselves should not overpower the actual OP/ED and must not have overly distracting effects that make the text illegible. Nice simple softsub lyrics or no karaoke at all works fine too…

  38. Reply
    Nazarielle
    May 13, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Does everyone hate it? Apparently not. The troll is on me.

    It needs more giant karaoke effects with exploding letters and fabulous rainbows, then it might make people angry. Then again with all the stupidity you’ve cited, maybe it’d make them like it even more. In any case, gg trolling yourself~

  39. Reply
    Lehq
    May 13, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    >>properly criticizes the least important aspect of fansubbing.
    >>least important aspect of fansubbing.
    >>least important

    lol misaimed fandom

  40. Reply
    psuedonymous
    May 14, 2009 at 1:22 am

    You forgot karaoke in the show itself (e.g. Menclave for EVERY SCENE IN FRONTIER). Because nobody cares about awesome space battles, we just want to watch huge sparkly purple letters take up 2/3 of the screen.

  41. Reply
    C.C.
    May 14, 2009 at 4:59 am

    lol @ Bradley Hand ITC shit.

  42. Reply
    Zorak
    May 14, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    the only good karaoke is no karaoke

  43. Reply
    Kurogane
    May 14, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Conclusion? Watch your anime raw. No fucking karaoke AFX shit to eyecancer you about.

    Seriously? People actually CARE about karaoke in a fansub ENOUGH to judge its overall quality based on it. Those people ought to be shot.

  44. Reply
    Reinforce`zwei
    May 14, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    In spite of 1. people skipping OPs/EDs or 2. people hating karaoke period, I didn’t stop doing my own karas. I changed my timing style with each project, spending less time syl-timing and more on readability (Yes, having the text appear before it’s sung, scene-timing where it’s not a bitch, super-continuous lines etc.)

    So then Koda points out “IF YOU REALLY LIKED THE SONG, YOU’D MEMORIZE THE LYRICS” and I realize I’ve been shooting myself in the foot this whole time.

    No more aspiring to learn euro/koda-level kfx. It obviously takes too much EFFORT and experience with comp sci I obviously don’t have.

  45. Reply
    pichu
    May 15, 2009 at 3:42 am

    for sengoku basara, you’ll have to blame the qc’s for suggesting that the swords are not sync’d… I had the swords slower than what being sung. I got tired of lousy people.

    Also, this is a very simple karaoke… I don’t know wtf you’re thinking, thinking it’s a complicated one. -_-

    • Reply
      風の谷の名無しさん
      May 15, 2009 at 4:46 am

      If it has ANYTHING more than text on the screen, it is too complicated. You are not the animator here, and when you pretend to be you’re just distracting from the actual animation. Frankly, it’s kind of insulting to the creators of the show.

      • Reply
        pichu
        May 15, 2009 at 4:39 pm

        hence the sprites are blurred in if any of you haven’t realized… I could have made it crispy sharp… but i didn’t.

        • Reply
          風の谷の名無しさん
          May 15, 2009 at 7:24 pm

          Let me repeat that for you: “If it has ANYTHING more than text on the screen, it is too complicated.”

          • Reply
            pichu
            May 15, 2009 at 7:35 pm

            let me repeat:

            see my latter post. I don’t give the fuck what you just said :)

            • 風の谷の名無しさん
              May 16, 2009 at 6:11 am

              Sure are posting a hell of a lot for a person who supposedly does not care.

              Face it, the “I’m too cool to care” feint never has and never will work.

      • Reply
        stellar
        May 18, 2009 at 1:54 pm

        Bursting words are common and for one anime, don’t remember what, there was an actual ball jumping between the words! (Like the Disney sing along vids) It was covering up the credits! I was so annoyed! What was the translator thinking?!

        For a lot of anime there will be Japanese, plus English, plus Japanese written in the Latin alphabet (to subconsciously teach the language?), on all sides of the screen…and sometimes subber credits thrown in the gaps between the karaoke and the actual credits. It makes it look like the subbers have far too much time on their hands…

    • Reply
      miasmacloud
      May 15, 2009 at 11:29 am

      >>simple

      lol ur trollan’

      it’s gaudy and tacky as hell bro.

      • Reply
        pichu
        May 15, 2009 at 4:40 pm

        lol you guys are lost…

        • Reply
          miasmacloud
          May 15, 2009 at 4:43 pm

          And you’re out of touch with downloaders, which makes me wonder why you’re a fansubber!

          • Reply
            pichu
            May 15, 2009 at 7:09 pm

            1. I don’t care about leechers and downloaders.
            2. I don’t care about anime.
            3. I don’t care about the story.
            4. I don’t care about your eyes.
            5. I don’t care what you think of me.
            6. I don’t care about subtitles.
            7. I don’t care about other groups’ crap.
            8. I don’t care about group’s policies.
            9. I don’t care about fansubs ethics.
            10. I don’t care about legal concerns.
            11. I don’t care about original creators.

            nuff said… I only care about myself. CHALLENGING = GOOD. ggkthxbye.

            • miasmacloud
              May 15, 2009 at 7:48 pm

              Yes, I’m sure you don’t care what any of us think, which is why you’re here defending your shitty karaoke. And I’m sure you’re after challenge, which is why you’re here not only defending one you made, but also one you say is simple. Okay.

            • stellar
              May 18, 2009 at 1:57 pm

              I don’t care enough to finish reading your comment.

  46. Reply
    pichu
    May 15, 2009 at 3:43 am

    Hey at least I made it to hall of shame :)

  47. Reply
    wat
    May 15, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    You should use PHT’s karaoke for Birdy 02 as an example of what not to do.

  48. Reply
    euro
    May 15, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    no karaoke is best karaoke.

  49. Reply
    Crofesima
    May 16, 2009 at 3:23 am

    One more thing – it’s not only that people actually like your K-ON! karaoke. It’s also INSPIRING for some of them.
    1
    2
    3
    These screenshots are from polish fansubs. They kinda fail though because of mp4 releases, but still… I lol’d. hard.

  50. Reply
    pichu
    May 16, 2009 at 4:30 am

    miasmacloud :Yes, I’m sure you don’t care what any of us think, which is why you’re here defending your shitty karaoke. And I’m sure you’re after challenge, which is why you’re here not only defending one you made, but also one you say is simple. Okay.

    it’s simple because it’s very simple to make… you must have been some simpleminded fool. If you can’t do even that, then your skill is obviously lacking. it’s simple period. you’re just all talk.

  51. Reply
    LobsterHime
    May 16, 2009 at 6:09 am

    Well, I don’t think this is the best place to be asking but I kind of feel creepy randomly PMing people I’ve never spoken more than 3 lines to after reading that they frequent other IRC networks from their blogs…

    Anyway, I’ve been working on karaoke effects for and older show for like 2 months now (like 5 minutes at a time before getting distracted). I’ve finally got something I’m happy with, but this post really making me think twice about it. I’d like some help either making it more fabulous or less of an eyesore. PM me on synIRC if you’d like to see it :/ I’m usually LobsterHime

  52. Reply
    dj_tjerk
    May 17, 2009 at 6:39 am


    miasmacloud     :    If it doesn’t shoot lasers at people…

    Damn… /me deletes and starts over

  53. Reply
    stellar
    May 18, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    My favourite karaoke is when the words (from Japanese written using the Latin alphabet) burst as they are sung.

    So pointless.

  54. Reply
    Euno
    May 28, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Interesting read, Koda. While to some extent I might feel a tad bit disappointed when there aren’t lyrics to a song that sounds really good, it is understandable that a group can’t/is too lazy to/fuck this do subs. And apparently I’ve not run into the worse kinds of shit, because I don’t think I’ve ever seen karaoke effects that just looked like shit… well, maybe once or twice, but then I just learn to skip the damn OP and watch good translating.

  55. Reply
    Gam3szz
    June 11, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Lmao I got quoted. Well as long Taka is in the quote :D

  56. Reply
    Acucar
    October 28, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    http://imgur.com/cBJzF.png I’m guessing we’re supposed to read that? :3

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